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		<title>By: dlgoodchild</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-274759</link>
		<dc:creator>dlgoodchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this is an old post, however I thought I&#039;d share another alternative which is in development.

I&#039;ve been developing this, to reduce the amount of code required to create a UI and to drop the idea of using onReady and stuff like that as seen in PHP-Ext ...
A sample can be seen here:
http://www.davegoodchild.co.uk/library/

I&#039;ll be aiming to complete this and get it out there for folk to try....The grid stuff has been simplified further than what is currently there.

Regards,

Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this is an old post, however I thought I&#8217;d share another alternative which is in development.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been developing this, to reduce the amount of code required to create a UI and to drop the idea of using onReady and stuff like that as seen in PHP-Ext &#8230;<br />
A sample can be seen here:<br />
<a href="http://www.davegoodchild.co.uk/library/" rel="nofollow">http://www.davegoodchild.co.uk/library/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be aiming to complete this and get it out there for folk to try&#8230;.The grid stuff has been simplified further than what is currently there.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: georgeblackjr</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-266719</link>
		<dc:creator>georgeblackjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a nice blend of wrappers and JS makes for a better development environment.  I love EXTJS and continue to use it every day in development but I find that I need to dynamically generate JS code based on business logic.  This is hard to do in EXTJS when you have a large code base and a very dynamic business logic setup.  Most of the development we do the EXTJS is not static and the use of a wrapper class makes for a cleaner code base.

Mostly I use the Wrapper for AJAX classes where PHP preforms the server back-end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a nice blend of wrappers and JS makes for a better development environment.  I love EXTJS and continue to use it every day in development but I find that I need to dynamically generate JS code based on business logic.  This is hard to do in EXTJS when you have a large code base and a very dynamic business logic setup.  Most of the development we do the EXTJS is not static and the use of a wrapper class makes for a cleaner code base.</p>
<p>Mostly I use the Wrapper for AJAX classes where PHP preforms the server back-end.</p>
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		<title>By: EViL</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-264500</link>
		<dc:creator>EViL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d completely disagree with Luerssen, that type of argument is like saying don&#039;t code C++  cause the generated binary is degraded compared to coding pure assembler - additionally ALL business-logics should be implemented server, doing anything remotely business critical client side is asking for problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d completely disagree with Luerssen, that type of argument is like saying don&#8217;t code C++  cause the generated binary is degraded compared to coding pure assembler &#8211; additionally ALL business-logics should be implemented server, doing anything remotely business critical client side is asking for problem!</p>
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		<title>By: Snowcoredotnet</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-263566</link>
		<dc:creator>Snowcoredotnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Luerssen.
But how nice Ext for admin side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Luerssen.<br />
But how nice Ext for admin side!</p>
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		<title>By: Luerssen</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-261921</link>
		<dc:creator>Luerssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wrappers like pQuery, ExtPHP will degrade performance vs clean JS. And destroy all business-logics. No reason to use it, only for learning &quot;wrapping&quot; =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wrappers like pQuery, ExtPHP will degrade performance vs clean JS. And destroy all business-logics. No reason to use it, only for learning &#8220;wrapping&#8221; =)</p>
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		<title>By: phpcs</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/to-extphp-or-to-php-ext/comment-page-1#comment-261911</link>
		<dc:creator>phpcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all know coolite.com , a tool for asp.net to graphically use ExtJs widgets without javascript, but It&#039;s generating javascript.
I believe some one must start working on a plugin for eclipse to add the same functionality as coolite, so there&#039;s no need for a wrapper and also we won&#039;t hand code some thing related to UI, but we&#039;ll use them this way easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know coolite.com , a tool for asp.net to graphically use ExtJs widgets without javascript, but It&#8217;s generating javascript.<br />
I believe some one must start working on a plugin for eclipse to add the same functionality as coolite, so there&#8217;s no need for a wrapper and also we won&#8217;t hand code some thing related to UI, but we&#8217;ll use them this way easily.</p>
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		<title>By: lvanderree</title>
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		<dc:creator>lvanderree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Symfony (the PHP5 Framework ;-) ) there is also a nice ExtJS wrapper-plugin.

You can check it out at: http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjs2Plugin

it can be used with a symfony ExtJS-theme plugin which transforms the default admin-CRUD-pages from Symfony to ExtJS powered ones (although this is still work in progress)
http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjsThemePlugin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Symfony (the PHP5 Framework ;-) ) there is also a nice ExtJS wrapper-plugin.</p>
<p>You can check it out at: <a href="http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjs2Plugin" rel="nofollow">http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjs2Plugin</a></p>
<p>it can be used with a symfony ExtJS-theme plugin which transforms the default admin-CRUD-pages from Symfony to ExtJS powered ones (although this is still work in progress)<br />
<a href="http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjsThemePlugin" rel="nofollow">http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/sfExtjsThemePlugin</a></p>
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		<title>By: 0xception</title>
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		<dc:creator>0xception</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LFRed

It might not be easier then javascript syntactically, however it does allow the developer to keep their code organized in a single location and language. I&#039;ve been working on a php/Extjs project for some time now, and have thought about doing this myself (creating a php wrapper class). 

i&#039;ll have to look at exactly how these classes are implemented, but it might be useful. Also it will help to a AJAX project form less skilled developers who dont know how to code in javascript or can&#039;t get a handle of an event driven, functional language.. so until i can hire the developers i&#039;ll be taking a look at this project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LFRed</p>
<p>It might not be easier then javascript syntactically, however it does allow the developer to keep their code organized in a single location and language. I&#8217;ve been working on a php/Extjs project for some time now, and have thought about doing this myself (creating a php wrapper class). </p>
<p>i&#8217;ll have to look at exactly how these classes are implemented, but it might be useful. Also it will help to a AJAX project form less skilled developers who dont know how to code in javascript or can&#8217;t get a handle of an event driven, functional language.. so until i can hire the developers i&#8217;ll be taking a look at this project.</p>
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		<title>By: LFReD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFReD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out that syntax. Is that any easier than javascript itself?
Time for a paradigm shift towards simplicity and semantics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out that syntax. Is that any easier than javascript itself?<br />
Time for a paradigm shift towards simplicity and semantics.</p>
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		<title>By: Phunky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phunky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although these kinda Projects are great i still feel that you end up restricting the power of ExtJS.

It took me just short of 48hrs to get to grips with ExtJS and I hate JavaScript :) but ExtJS has made me grow to love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although these kinda Projects are great i still feel that you end up restricting the power of ExtJS.</p>
<p>It took me just short of 48hrs to get to grips with ExtJS and I hate JavaScript :) but ExtJS has made me grow to love it.</p>
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