Comments on: WaveMaker Visual Ajax Studio for Mac

By: Dobs

Dobs — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:05:19 +0000

@ctkeene: Web Inspector is included in all Safari and nightly Webkit builds since 3.0, and just needs to be enabled. On OSX, open a new terminal and enter the following:

defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitDeveloperExtras 1
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

By: tlrobinson

tlrobinson — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:25:52 +0000

A Google Summer of Code applicant is porting the Firebug APIs to WebKit:

http://rossboucher.com/2008/04/21/safari-web-inspector/

By: ctkeene

ctkeene — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:28:03 +0000

@Jeffrey – I do admit to being retarded (thanks mysterioushref ;-), but I wasn’t able to see how to get Web Inspector from the webkit nightly build link. What I would like would be a Safari plugin that I could use on Mac or PC that does roughly what Firebug does. From what I could see, it looks like you are close, but not quite to the seamless plugin stage yet.

By: mysterioushref

mysterioushref — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:10:27 +0000

What does Camtasia have to do with the totally different product iMovie? How does a 3rd party app for Windows vs. an Apple product of a totally different genre bear any weight in comparing the two operating systems? If you had to relearn how to use Windows to go from XP to Vista, it means nothing more than that you’re retarded, because they’re basically the same, with different graphics. Furthermore, why is it an achievement that your web application now works on Mac? Shouldn’t that be a requirement from the get go? I like Macs and Windows, I own both systems, but completely flawed reasons why Mac is better just dilute the actual reasons why its better. FAIL

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:09:35 +0000

Well, if that's the case ("Firebug" not "Firefox"), the latest version of Safari offers Web Inspector. Web Inspector offers at least 90% of the features that Firebug offers.

By: wiredfool

wiredfool — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:39:23 +0000

While I’d love firebug for Safari, my sanity would really rather have it for IE. It would have saved me a day already this week chasing bugs that only appear there.

By: ctkeene

ctkeene — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:38:59 +0000

@tizz66 – right you are. I confusingly said Firefox when I meant Firebug, creating the almost perfectly tautological sentence without even trying. A great example of the trying to make sense of monkeys typing on keyboards paradox that plagues the blogging world.

By: tizz66

tizz66 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:23:19 +0000

I think he probably means if Firebug is ported to Safari, Firefox will be in trouble. I can agree with that; Firebug is a killer app for Firefox.

Regarding the rest… One of the reasons I use Mac is the general high-quality interface design not just from Apple, but from third-party developers too. In that sense, WaveMaker’s post is somewhat ironic, because their Mac application clearly shows little regard for Mac interface guidelines or conventions.

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:32:08 +0000

“…and if Firefox ever gets ported to Safari, Firefox will be in trouble…” Huh? Chrisdpratt, you are so right. That mess of English is what I will have as my take-away from this article, not a new AJAX dev’ tool for MacOS X.

By: chrisdpratt

chrisdpratt — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:21:50 +0000

I have to ask because I’m having one of those “I couldn’t go to college because of my horse” (Lewis Black) moments. He says, “and if Firefox ever gets ported to Safari, Firefox will be in trouble” — what does that mean?