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	<title>Comments on: First sign of WebGL lands in WebKit</title>
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		<title>By: yt</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275617</link>
		<dc:creator>yt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>_This is pretty cool but I refuse to code 3d apps in a non-compiled language… _

tell that to the professional games coders who use lua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_This is pretty cool but I refuse to code 3d apps in a non-compiled language… _</p>
<p>tell that to the professional games coders who use lua.</p>
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		<title>By: parsap</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275506</link>
		<dc:creator>parsap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>functionform, I think that&#039;s a personal problem ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>functionform, I think that&#8217;s a personal problem ;)</p>
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		<title>By: functionform</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275500</link>
		<dc:creator>functionform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty cool but I refuse to code 3d apps in a non-compiled language...  I&#039;m just tired of not having a proper syntax/reference checker like Eclipse for Java.  Javascript is great for tying things together, but it kills me for larger projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty cool but I refuse to code 3d apps in a non-compiled language&#8230;  I&#8217;m just tired of not having a proper syntax/reference checker like Eclipse for Java.  Javascript is great for tying things together, but it kills me for larger projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan1</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that MooTools has a plugin that uses WebGL. Their community is pretty large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that MooTools has a plugin that uses WebGL. Their community is pretty large.</p>
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		<title>By: dimitryz</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275482</link>
		<dc:creator>dimitryz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are exciting times for application developers. The last of the wall in online hosting of full-featured desktop applications is coming down.

I can imagine an application that cannot be moved into the browser space. This is it folks. All programming will soon be web programming, so screw you Michael Braude http://www.michaelbraude.com/2009/05/why-ill-never-be-web-guy.html.

PS, that last bit is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are exciting times for application developers. The last of the wall in online hosting of full-featured desktop applications is coming down.</p>
<p>I can imagine an application that cannot be moved into the browser space. This is it folks. All programming will soon be web programming, so screw you Michael Braude <a href="http://www.michaelbraude.com/2009/05/why-ill-never-be-web-guy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelbraude.com/2009/05/why-ill-never-be-web-guy.html</a>.</p>
<p>PS, that last bit is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: randomrandom</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275481</link>
		<dc:creator>randomrandom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pianoroy:
I&#039;m 100% with you on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pianoroy:<br />
I&#8217;m 100% with you on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: pianoroy</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275477</link>
		<dc:creator>pianoroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ought to develop applications and games that utilize the WebGL standard, and just post a notice on sites that tells people they need to download a WebGL-supporting browser. The demand for the awesome apps/games we develop will override the resistance to downloading another browser, especially if people are already somehow familiar with the games/apps. Think Quake 3D, Unreal Tournament, or even Tetris -- all things that would hold great appeal, even for an in-browser experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ought to develop applications and games that utilize the WebGL standard, and just post a notice on sites that tells people they need to download a WebGL-supporting browser. The demand for the awesome apps/games we develop will override the resistance to downloading another browser, especially if people are already somehow familiar with the games/apps. Think Quake 3D, Unreal Tournament, or even Tetris &#8212; all things that would hold great appeal, even for an in-browser experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkimmortal</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275476</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkimmortal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joeri

Heard of O3D? It&#039;s leaps and bounds ahead of any other in-browser 3D technology, and it works in IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joeri</p>
<p>Heard of O3D? It&#8217;s leaps and bounds ahead of any other in-browser 3D technology, and it works in IE.</p>
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		<title>By: randomrandom</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275474</link>
		<dc:creator>randomrandom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More(*) ideally, someone will implement a declarative 3D language on top of it. Say COLLADA, VRML/X3D or some JSON version of those.

Even more ideally, find a way to make 3D objects accessible through the DOM. I hope there&#039;s still a way out of that procedural canvassy mindset.

(*) I don&#039;t believe in Platonism. There&#039;s always a better ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More(*) ideally, someone will implement a declarative 3D language on top of it. Say COLLADA, VRML/X3D or some JSON version of those.</p>
<p>Even more ideally, find a way to make 3D objects accessible through the DOM. I hope there&#8217;s still a way out of that procedural canvassy mindset.</p>
<p>(*) I don&#8217;t believe in Platonism. There&#8217;s always a better ideal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadet</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275472</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;jQuery-inizing&quot; high-level API&#039;s is a bad idea to start with. A lot of people start throwing jquery into the mix where it&#039;s not even needed or even geared towards such a thing. The best high-level API on top of this would be one without a framework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;jQuery-inizing&#8221; high-level API&#8217;s is a bad idea to start with. A lot of people start throwing jquery into the mix where it&#8217;s not even needed or even geared towards such a thing. The best high-level API on top of this would be one without a framework.</p>
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		<title>By: sos</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275471</link>
		<dc:creator>sos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about Microsoft for now - they&#039;ll never implement this in IE.  Why this is so exciting is that mobile devices that use WebKit (iPhone, Palm Pre etc) will have native 3D in a browser.  The desktop market is more difficult, as MS are so entrenched, but the mobile market is going more and more in WebKits direction, so great things could happen there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about Microsoft for now &#8211; they&#8217;ll never implement this in IE.  Why this is so exciting is that mobile devices that use WebKit (iPhone, Palm Pre etc) will have native 3D in a browser.  The desktop market is more difficult, as MS are so entrenched, but the mobile market is going more and more in WebKits direction, so great things could happen there.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterGeil</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275468</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterGeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome! Hope to see it broadly implemented in a not too far away future. Maybe those features will be the begin of Flash(r)&#039;s downturn as first choice for multimedia-intensive applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Hope to see it broadly implemented in a not too far away future. Maybe those features will be the begin of Flash(r)&#8217;s downturn as first choice for multimedia-intensive applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Transfinite</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275467</link>
		<dc:creator>Transfinite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And do we even care, they can marginalize themselves all they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And do we even care, they can marginalize themselves all they want.</p>
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		<title>By: V1</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275466</link>
		<dc:creator>V1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you even ask that question while you already know the answer of it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you even ask that question while you already know the answer of it..</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
		<link>http://ajaxian.com/archives/webgl-webkit/comment-page-1#comment-275465</link>
		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, the most important question remains: when, if ever, will microsoft implement it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, the most important question remains: when, if ever, will microsoft implement it?</p>
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