Comments on: WebOS Versus Webified Desktops http://ajaxian.com/archives/webos-versus-webified-desktops Cleaning up the web with Ajax Thu, 17 May 2012 07:43:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Hakan Bilgin http://ajaxian.com/archives/webos-versus-webified-desktops/comment-page-1#comment-87657 Hakan Bilgin Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:15:18 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1556#comment-87657 PuReWebDev; I agree with you that web based applications is the future. Though I am not equally certain about Microsoft’s agenda... Why? The OS’s Windows 95 and forward contains portions solved with web technologies such as DHTML. For instance, (at least) in Win2000, if you customize a folder, a hidden file is added to the folder and the customizations were declared and interpreted with HTML + CSS and even Javascript (I don't remember all the details). Furthermore, in my humble opinion, Microsoft introduced very early technologies, even if proprietary, not necessarily needed in regular web development. For a long time, I thought that these were preparations for migration to web based platform/OS or whatever you want to call it... I don’t know what Microsoft’s agenda was then or what it is now, but surely it is strange and they either seem to have lost focus or they just lost the brains behind the strategy. Regardless, I think it’s a mistake to summarize Microsoft’s behaviour to fast. Thanks... PuReWebDev; I agree with you that web based applications is the future. Though I am not equally certain about Microsoft’s agenda… Why?

The OS’s Windows 95 and forward contains portions solved with web technologies such as DHTML. For instance, (at least) in Win2000, if you customize a folder, a hidden file is added to the folder and the customizations were declared and interpreted with HTML + CSS and even Javascript (I don’t remember all the details). Furthermore, in my humble opinion, Microsoft introduced very early technologies, even if proprietary, not necessarily needed in regular web development.

For a long time, I thought that these were preparations for migration to web based platform/OS or whatever you want to call it… I don’t know what Microsoft’s agenda was then or what it is now, but surely it is strange and they either seem to have lost focus or they just lost the brains behind the strategy. Regardless, I think it’s a mistake to summarize Microsoft’s behaviour to fast.

Thanks…

]]> By: PuReWebDev http://ajaxian.com/archives/webos-versus-webified-desktops/comment-page-1#comment-87048 PuReWebDev Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:59:03 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1556#comment-87048 I get the feeling that this article was written by someone who has stock options with Microsoft. The truth is webbased desktop are just the next step in the internet being the application. In the next few years, broadband will be absolutely everywhere, and in many cases, free. Having a network slow down or outage, will only be as common as a blackout in your area. Doesn't mean you shouldn't use the power right! The author of this article in my opinion doesn't understand that the web based desktop isn't optional. It's going to happen, and as developers we must either embrace it, or be rendered obsolete. The issues mentioned while serious, will easily be overcome. Additional nodes adds server capacity, data even on a nas or storage already has privileges and rights assigned to it, so I don't see where the author gets the issues of authentication. He must be stuck in a microsoft world, because as far as I know, linux and Unix both have strong authentication built right into the os from forever. The issue of trusting startups is really grasping at straws. The internet society just like the real world, while a dangerous place to be is built on different levels of trust. You won't trust a start up website, but you'll trust the clerk in a gas station you've never been to before to not make fraud on your credit card? The listed bullets are just petty wish thinking about slowing down what will be and what is the internet revolution. I get the feeling that this article was written by someone who has stock options with Microsoft. The truth is webbased desktop are just the next step in the internet being the application.

In the next few years, broadband will be absolutely everywhere, and in many cases, free. Having a network slow down or outage, will only be as common as a blackout in your area. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use the power right!

The author of this article in my opinion doesn’t understand that the web based desktop isn’t optional. It’s going to happen, and as developers we must either embrace it, or be rendered obsolete.

The issues mentioned while serious, will easily be overcome. Additional nodes adds server capacity, data even on a nas or storage already has privileges and rights assigned to it, so I don’t see where the author gets the issues of authentication. He must be stuck in a microsoft world, because as far as I know, linux and Unix both have strong authentication built right into the os from forever. The issue of trusting startups is really grasping at straws.

The internet society just like the real world, while a dangerous place to be is built on different levels of trust. You won’t trust a start up website, but you’ll trust the clerk in a gas station you’ve never been to before to not make fraud on your credit card?

The listed bullets are just petty wish thinking about slowing down what will be and what is the internet revolution.

]]> By: Tahir http://ajaxian.com/archives/webos-versus-webified-desktops/comment-page-1#comment-86906 Tahir Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:31:07 +0000 http://ajaxian.com/?p=1556#comment-86906 There are many cross browser issues with basic HTML, CSS and JavaScript which become obvious in webtops. For IE you can create custom ActiveX or use ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") and ActiveXObject("WScript.Shell") to have a powerful webtops … But what's the point? Technology is works best if you have the least amount of barriers / layers between you and what you want. Web applications gives you what you want with out the hassle of any OS related issues, but webtops goes into the opposite direction. Webified desktops on the other hand have more potential. There are many cross browser issues with basic HTML, CSS and JavaScript which become obvious in webtops. For IE you can create custom ActiveX or use ActiveXObject(“Scripting.FileSystemObject”) and ActiveXObject(“WScript.Shell”) to have a powerful webtops … But what’s the point?
Technology is works best if you have the least amount of barriers / layers between you and what you want. Web applications gives you what you want with out the hassle of any OS related issues, but webtops goes into the opposite direction. Webified desktops on the other hand have more potential.

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