Monday, July 11th, 2005

Yahoo! Mail: Revenge of the Oddpost

Category: Editorial

Yahoo! grabbed the Oddpost guys, who built an insane JavaScript client library, which they used to build a web based email client that looks like Outlook. Everyone has been wondering when their influence will be seen on Yahoo! Mail itself. They have done a couple of things, such as auto-completion of addresses, but what about the big stuff!

Silicon Beat has come out with: Behold, the new Yahoo Mail where they discuss the new version.

I am a bit wary about trying to make a web application look like a rich client. The web is different. It will be interesting to see what Yahoo! Mail users think, although the article says it will be rolled out very slowly.

I also found it interesting that Ethan Diamond (founder of Oddpost and all round cool guy) was quoted saying that users like folders vs. GMails labels. Folders break down for me very quickly…

Posted by Dion Almaer at 1:06 am
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I wish Yahoo developed a XUL version for us the lucky 10% that can take advantage of web2 with mozilla browsers right now.

That would leave GMail biting the dust.

Comment by XULPower — July 11, 2005

“I am a bit wary about trying to make a web application look like a rich client.”

Isn’t that the point of AJAX?

Comment by Hashim — July 11, 2005

“users like folders vs. GMails labels”…

This is the interesting quote, as I think the usability aspect really has a lot to do with scale. When you first start using a mail client, folders are easier to grok. The problem is when you save large quantities of email, and want to go back and find them. Being able to search them by tag becomes far more compelling. Those that never save too many emails are likely never to see the advantages of a tag-based system.

Comment by Josh Johnson — July 11, 2005

Why not combine the two methods and allow someone to sort their mail into folders, while assigning tags to the message so that later, you can search by tag, or browse through folders?

Comment by Steven Ametjan — July 11, 2005

– I’m guessing very few users have a hierarchical folder setup – I’d expect almost all mail users use a flat set of folders, if that. So tags give you the same benefit (and you can fake hierarchies anyway using a:naming:convention). As long as the software helps you see which tags are there, auto-completion, etc, why bother with folders? (To be honest, why bother with tags as well when you have intelligent searching, but that’s another story.)

Comment by Michael Mahemoff — July 11, 2005

This only tells me that neighter of these 2 solutions are used by the basic users…

Lets find an other solution…

I have noticed that thread types (like on some forums) are really well understood/liked by users.

Comment by Fred — July 15, 2005

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